Official 2010 Ford Mustang Thread

[Polish Guy]

Very nice!

it looks alot better than the current one. the more aggressive front gives it a more manly attitude!


...and i love the blue!

[LSixer]

They stated that the "dry-sump" engine from the GT cannot be used here. I wonder why that is? It would seem to me that the engine space in the GT is smaller that in the mustang. As the article said, they cast iron pushed the weight up significantly. 

[evo_power]

They could probably make it fit...but packaging is a whole different story. Ford will want to use as many common parts as possible. While you could just go back and redesign everything to make the engine fit, it would take a lot more time and a lot more money. As the car already has it's selling point GT500 badge+lots of power=PROFIT!, making it weight less isn't going to be shipping any more out the door, especially considering that the car would still be a fat shit regardless.

My verdict...it's kinda neat. A little too bulbous for my tastes, but on the bright side, it might bring the price down on the first generation models.

[S POWRD]

 

[Elmo187]

Source: AutoBlog

Shelby Automobiles, a wholly owned subsidiary of Carroll Shelby International Inc. (CSBI.PK) has returned to drag racing with a limited edition Prudhomme Edition Super Snake package for the Shelby GT500 Mustang. Carroll Shelby and Don "The Snake" Prudhomme unveiled the program during a private reception at the Wally Parks NHRA Motorsports Museum in Pomona, Calif. The drag racing inspired 800 horsepower post title package was a collaboration between Shelby Autos and Don Prudhomme, who successfully drove a top fuel car for Carroll Shelby in the 1968 NHRA season.

Each year, the Automobile Club of Southern California holds a dinner to support the Wally Parks NHRA Motorsports Museum on the first night of the Kragen O'Reilly NHRA Winternationals. In honor of the fortieth anniversary of the first race that Mr. Prudhomme drove for Carroll Shelby, the Shelby Autos team unveiled the new drag racing package that they developed together over the past year.

"Don is an exceptional drag racer and I'm proud that he drove my first Top Fuel car in 1968," noted Carroll Shelby. "By leveraging Don's experience, we turned a really good car into a great drag racer that will beat up on the MOPAR and bow tie brigade right out of the box."

The program is a post-title package for 2007-2010 Ford Shelby GT500 cars already in the hands of owners. To create the Prudhomme Edition Super Snake, Shelby Autos pumps up the 5.4L supercharged engine to produce 800 hp on race fuel or 750 hp on 93 octane pump gas. The Shelby includes a Kenne Belle modified air intake sticking out of the hood in the tilt front end, a five-point Impact safety harness and a Borla side exhaust system. A front and rear adjustable BMR racing suspension and drag tires are included to improve traction during launches; optional street tires are available. For a more aggressive stance and improved aerodynamics, side lower rockers are incorporated. Only 100 total packages at $100,000 (not including car) will be offered.

"Working with Don on this project was a great experience for our design team," noted Amy Boylan, president of Shelby Automobiles. "Carroll and Don earned their stripes in competition over the years, so we had to build a car that would continue their racing domination. Our Prudhomme Edition GT500 Super Snake builds on that legacy and gives Shelby enthusiasts today a way to rule the quarter mile in their town."

By the mid-1960s, Carroll Shelby and Don Prudhomme were both at the top of their respective games. Prudhomme was one of the winningest Top Fuel drag racers in the country. Shelby was a racer-turned-builder of Cobras, GT40s and Mustangs who won endurance and road racing championships worldwide. His company even offered drag racing packages for privateers to compete in their Cobra or Shelby Mustang on the strip.

"The Snake" and the Cobra's creator teamed in 1968 for an NHRA ride. Prudhomme's Ford Cammer-powered rail made its debut as "Shelby's Super Snake at the 1968 Winternationals. He won the race and drove the rest of the season under the Shelby banner.

Don "The Snake" Prudhomme's successful racing career included winning the NHRA funny car championship four times. He was the first funny car driver to exceed 250 mph. In 1994, he began managing his own racing team, which won the Top Fuel championship in 2002 and 2003. Prudhomme was inducted into the Motorsports Hall of Fame of America in 1991 and the International Motorsports Hall of Fame in 2000.

"It's been a great opportunity to work with Carroll and the Shelby Autos team on this amazing program," added Prudhomme. "I'm honored that Carroll gave me this honor to build a car that's true to his legacy and my efforts to move them across the finish line first. The car can be tuned to deliver over 800 horsepower on race gas, which should pretty fast. It's a well sorted out package that is capable of dusting the competition in the Shelby way."

The Prudhomme Edition Shelby GT500 Super Snake is intended to be truly a road and track car.

"The thing I really think is cool about this car is that you can drive it both on the track and on the street," added Prudhomme. "It reminds me of how drag racing used to be back in the day when we would drive our cars to the drag strip, race them, and drive them home at the end of the day. That's maybe the neatest thing about this car."

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i have a strong feeling that whoever purchases one of these, i don't think they'll be driven on the street.

[Wagon Mafia]

i have a strong feeling that whoever purchases one of these kits is pretty stupid... a 100 grand for 300 more hp? so bassicly the price would be like 150k for a shitty mustang? Ya don't know about this. Maybe...Maybe... if i was a car collector and would store it for 50 years and then sell it. Pretty much why in the world would i pay for a 300hp add on kit almost as much as a ZR1?

[Elmo187]

i have a strong feeling that whoever purchases one of these kits is pretty stupid... a 100 grand for 300 more hp? so bassicly the price would be like 150k for a shitty mustang? Ya don't know about this. Maybe...Maybe... if i was a car collector and would store it for 50 years and then sell it. Pretty much why in the world would i pay for a 300hp add on kit almost as much as a ZR1?

you're paying for a full-on race car here. full cage, 10.5" slicks, 800hp, and 9 second 1/4s. what other car offers all of that in one package? you're not just paying for the power, you're paying for the full car.

but hey, if you want to go slower, but yet make great 1/4s, get an '09 Ford Racing Mustang Cobra Jet, Roush Mustang 427R Drag Pak, Challenger Drag Pack, or the upcoming Camaro SS GMP Drag Pack.

[Wagon Mafia]

i have a strong feeling that whoever purchases one of these kits is pretty stupid... a 100 grand for 300 more hp? so bassicly the price would be like 150k for a shitty mustang? Ya don't know about this. Maybe...Maybe... if i was a car collector and would store it for 50 years and then sell it. Pretty much why in the world would i pay for a 300hp add on kit almost as much as a ZR1?

you're paying for a full-on race car here. full cage, 10.5" slicks, 800hp, and 9 second 1/4s. what other car offers all of that in one package? you're not just paying for the power, you're paying for the full car.

but hey, if you want to go slower, but yet make great 1/4s, get an '09 Ford Racing Mustang Cobra Jet, Roush Mustang 427R Drag Pak, Challenger Drag Pack, or the upcoming Camaro SS GMP Drag Pack.

Ya but ur paying a 100k for that. You get a terrible looking body (imo) A cage and slicks and some ponies? i bet you give any reputable mustang tuning company a Gt mustang with 20k to spend and they will build a caged, mustang producing 800hp. I think they will throw in some slicks too.

[S POWRD]

i have a strong feeling that whoever purchases one of these kits is pretty stupid... a 100 grand for 300 more hp? so bassicly the price would be like 150k for a shitty mustang? Ya don't know about this. Maybe...Maybe... if i was a car collector and would store it for 50 years and then sell it. Pretty much why in the world would i pay for a 300hp add on kit almost as much as a ZR1?

you're paying for a full-on race car here. full cage, 10.5" slicks, 800hp, and 9 second 1/4s. what other car offers all of that in one package? you're not just paying for the power, you're paying for the full car.

but hey, if you want to go slower, but yet make great 1/4s, get an '09 Ford Racing Mustang Cobra Jet, Roush Mustang 427R Drag Pak, Challenger Drag Pack, or the upcoming Camaro SS GMP Drag Pack.

Or you could get an EVO, drop a built 4g63 and trans and be running 9's for a LOT LESS. OH, and that EVO can still be daily driven and get 30 MPG, too.

[Elmo187]

i doubt you're going to be running 9s and getting 30mpg. hell, even when the Lan-Evo is stock, it doesn't get 30mpg.

but the thing is, you guys aren't getting it at all. this is a RACE CAR. the price you see is hiked up from the original price of the GT500KR Super Snake, which was hiked up from the KR, which was hiked up from the GT500. Shelby Automotive is not a cheap manufacturer at all. the stuff that goes into their cars is high quality stuff.

you're not paying JUST for the horsepower. you're paying for the names (Don "The Snake" Prudhomme, look him up), the car, and everything else within this car. you're not going to find a similarily powerful RACE CAR for this much money with this kind of prestige. if you can find me another TURNKEY RACE CAR for less than this, please feel free to post it.

[Wagon Mafia]

i doubt you're going to be running 9s and getting 30mpg. hell, even when the Lan-Evo is stock, it doesn't get 30mpg.

but the thing is, you guys aren't getting it at all. this is a RACE CAR. the price you see is hiked up from the original price of the GT500KR Super Snake, which was hiked up from the KR, which was hiked up from the GT500. Shelby Automotive is not a cheap manufacturer at all. the stuff that goes into their cars is high quality stuff.

you're not paying JUST for the horsepower. you're paying for the names (Don "The Snake" Prudhomme, look him up), the car, and everything else within this car. you're not going to find a similarily powerful RACE CAR for this much money with this kind of prestige. if you can find me another TURNKEY RACE CAR for less than this, please feel free to post it.

Its a drag car lol. like i stated you can easily build a mustang with a cage and slicks ( i guess it makes it a race car) for a lot less. As yes you are paying for the name which is stupid.

ohh and you aren't paying for the car. Its a 100k without the car. I am sorry if i was a mustang enthusiast i would either buy a gt500 buy itself and easily makke it have 800hp or buy a GT and build it for a lot less. With enough money to buy a 100k car for the street.

[EtanClan]

I agree with you in terms of money Sergey, obviously people like us (and most people around the world) aren't going to be buying this kinda car if they want something fast. We'll just mod something cheaper, like you've said. But really, this is the same little analogy that always comes up between us.

We were just talking about paintball guns at Steak and Shake yesterday and Eric was saying how the Ion is just like a Civic. You can mod it to shoot like a $1000+ paintball gun, but it looks like crap (unless if you throw on the cheesy body mods) and it's still an Ion. While if you had the $1000 paintball gun you basically own the Ferrari of paintball guns.

I mean when you pay hundreds of thousands for a Ferrari you're pretty much also paying for the name. Why don't you just go buy an MR2 and get some really nice body work to make it look like a Ferrari. Just throw a V12 in there while you're at it. I bet that you're not going to be paying $200 grand to get all that done on top of the MR2 you can get for like $2 grand.

The whole thing is that you still have to appreciate the name, aka Shelby, or Ferrari, or whatever. I think that's kinda what Elmo was trying to say.

[S POWRD]

i doubt you're going to be running 9s and getting 30mpg. hell, even when the Lan-Evo is stock, it doesn't get 30mpg.

but the thing is, you guys aren't getting it at all. this is a RACE CAR. the price you see is hiked up from the original price of the GT500KR Super Snake, which was hiked up from the KR, which was hiked up from the GT500. Shelby Automotive is not a cheap manufacturer at all. the stuff that goes into their cars is high quality stuff.

you're not paying JUST for the horsepower. you're paying for the names (Don "The Snake" Prudhomme, look him up), the car, and everything else within this car. you're not going to find a similarily powerful RACE CAR for this much money with this kind of prestige. if you can find me another TURNKEY RACE CAR for less than this, please feel free to post it.

Buschur Built EVO 9 owned by "VW Jeff"
You turn boost down and you can manage 30+ MPG, you turn boost up to 30 PSI and hit 9's.

I would much rather have that EVO than that mustang. The evo can easily be made to run around a track as well, where as that mustang is strictly a straight line car.

I see where you're coming from with the you're paying for the name thing. But still... If you're going to drop that much money on a car that technically isn't even street legal why not just buy a straight nitro race car for the same price that runs 7's or 6's??

[Wagon Mafia]

I agree with you in terms of money Sergey, obviously people like us (and most people around the world) aren't going to be buying this kinda car if they want something fast. We'll just mod something cheaper, like you've said. But really, this is the same little analogy that always comes up between us.

We were just talking about paintball guns at Steak and Shake yesterday and Eric was saying how the Ion is just like a Civic. You can mod it to shoot like a $1000+ paintball gun, but it looks like crap (unless if you throw on the cheesy body mods) and it's still an Ion. While if you had the $1000 paintball gun you basically own the Ferrari of paintball guns.

I mean when you pay hundreds of thousands for a Ferrari you're pretty much also paying for the name. Why don't you just go buy an MR2 and get some really nice body work to make it look like a Ferrari. Just throw a V12 in there while you're at it. I bet that you're not going to be paying $200 grand to get all that done on top of the MR2 you can get for like $2 grand.

The whole thing is that you still have to appreciate the name, aka Shelby, or Ferrari, or whatever. I think that's kinda what Elmo was trying to say.

ya except at the end of the day its still a FORD mustang. lol we arent comparing a mustang to a ferrari i was strictly saying take a GT mustang and easily build it to the same or better specs for a lot less. Like you said you can add whatever you want to the car, it will still be the same car. In this case you can add all the special KR shelby BS that you want at the end of the day its still a mustang.

i doubt you're going to be running 9s and getting 30mpg. hell, even when the Lan-Evo is stock, it doesn't get 30mpg.

but the thing is, you guys aren't getting it at all. this is a RACE CAR. the price you see is hiked up from the original price of the GT500KR Super Snake, which was hiked up from the KR, which was hiked up from the GT500. Shelby Automotive is not a cheap manufacturer at all. the stuff that goes into their cars is high quality stuff.

you're not paying JUST for the horsepower. you're paying for the names (Don "The Snake" Prudhomme, look him up), the car, and everything else within this car. you're not going to find a similarily powerful RACE CAR for this much money with this kind of prestige. if you can find me another TURNKEY RACE CAR for less than this, please feel free to post it.

Buschur Built EVO 9 owned by "VW Jeff"
You turn boost down and you can manage 30+ MPG, you turn boost up to 30 PSI and hit 9's.

I would much rather have that EVO than that mustang. The evo can easily be made to run around a track as well, where as that mustang is strictly a straight line car.

I see where you're coming from with the you're paying for the name thing. But still... If you're going to drop that much money on a car that technically isn't even street legal why not just buy a straight nitro race car for the same price that runs 7's or 6's??

Totally agree with you.

[Elmo187]

The whole thing is that you still have to appreciate the name, aka Shelby, or Ferrari, or whatever. I think that's kinda what Elmo was trying to say.

well not just Shelby, you're paying for the history of Shelby Automotive and the name of Don "The Snake" Prudhomme. where else can you buy a full turnkey street legal race car that was built in tribute of one of the greatest drag racers of all time? plus, you get both Mr. Shelby's and The Snake's autographs on the dash for no extra charge lol.

I see where you're coming from with the you're paying for the name thing. But still... If you're going to drop that much money on a car that technically isn't even street legal why not just buy a straight nitro race car for the same price that runs 7's or 6's??

the car is street legal. as said in the last sentence of the article, it was built to be a road and track car.

ya except at the end of the day its still a FORD mustang. lol we arent comparing a mustang to a ferrari i was strictly saying take a GT mustang and easily build it to the same or better specs for a lot less. Like you said you can add whatever you want to the car, it will still be the same car. In this case you can add all the special KR shelby BS that you want at the end of the day its still a mustang.

he wasn't comparing the Mustang to a Ferrari. he brought up Ferrari because of the name. with Ferrari, you're basically doing the same exact thing when you buy this car. you're paying for the name, the history, the technology, and everything else that Ferrari has to offer.

and really? no offense, but "its still a Mustang"? we're not talking about a Neon SRT/4 here. its not like the Mustang is one of the most hated cars in the world.